Shadow of the Erdtreeadds many new things to the base game, building upon the foundation that was laid out whenElden Ringfirst came out. Where itadded new weaponsand spells, it also added an entirely new status effect, Eternal Sleep.

Differing only slightly from normal sleep, Eternal Sleep can be procced with two weapons, Velvet Sword of St. Trina andThiollier’s Hidden Needle. This status effect isn’t very effective in PvE (at least in the DLC) since mostbosses are immune to sleep and eternal sleepor shrug off the effect immediately after being inflicted. However, it is devastating in PvP, especially when paired with Sleep Evermore, Thiollier’s Hidden Needle’s ash of war.

other equipment for Thiollier’s Hidden Needle in elden ring shadow of the erdtree

Thiollier’s Hidden Needle scales mainly with DEX and secondarily with INT. Increase the DEX to 70, and invest the rest of your skill points into INT to min max the damage. The ash of war doesn’t consume a lot of FP, making 10 Mind enough most of the time, though you can invest a bit more if you plan tointegrate spells into your build. The 25 FAI is to meet the minimum requirement forGolden Vow, though players can skip it if they don’t feel like they need the buff in their routine. They can use theUplifting Aromaticin its stead.

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talismans for Thiollier’s Hidden Needle in elden ring shadow of the erdtree

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wondrous flask mixture for Thiollier’s Hidden Needle in elden ring shadow of the erdtree

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general playstyle with Thiollier’s Hidden Needle in elden ring shadow of the erdtree

Best Equipment For Thiollier’s Hidden Needle In Elden Ring

It’s not very effective to use the Thiollier’s Hidden Needle on it’s own. It has a short range, it causes a fairly small amount of Eternal Sleep build up, and it doesn’t deal a lot of damage. However, when paired with the right items and armaments, players can wreak havoc on their enemies, usually other players.

Best Talismans For Thiollier’s Hidden Needle In Elden Ring

TheCompanion Jardoes increase the damage done by throwing pots; however, itdoesn’t increase the status build-up, so it is irrelevant in this build.

Best Wondrous Physik Mixture For Thiollier’s Hidden Needle In Elden Ring

Wondrous Physik doesn’t do much for this build. Players can usewhatever crystal tear they likesince nothing directly buffs the sleep build up or skill damage from Thiollier’s Hidden Needle.Opaline HardtearandOpaline Bubbletearare good defensive options, and theGreenburst Crystal Tearis a good auxiliary tear.

How To Use The Thiollier’s Hidden Needle Build In Elden Ring

Thiollier’s Hidden Needle is a little underwhelming in PvE combat, especially becausemost of the DLC bossesare straight up immune to the sleep status effect. However, it is overpowered in PvP combat, and can be used to great effect with the right weapon combinations.

First, you should have theSpread Crossbow equippedin your off-hand with Sleepbone bolts equipped. Using this crossbow is the easiest way to cause the sleep status. However, you can also use sleep pots and ritual sleep pots in situations where it makes sense. Regardless of the source, your first priority is proccing sleep or eternal sleep on the enemy player.

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As soon as you see the status take effect, dual wield Thiollier’s Hidden Needle, and use itsAsh of War, Sleep Evermore. If you hit the sleeping player, this will deal a big chunk of damage to their HP. Follow it up with a heavy attack to hit them once more to finish them off.

Since players running this build will be heavily invested in Intelligence and Dexterity, they can use either aMoonveilorDark Moon Greatswordbuild (with some minor stat adjustments) when they aren’t running a sleep build since it’s ineffective against many bosses.

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